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KuuL (32)   Nov 02, 2009 - 09:43 am

You're trying to play the game as an RPG, when it is clearly a FPS with some very lite RPG elements. This game is a first person looter, first and foremost. It is not an RPG by any means. There is a very thin story, but the main drive is to get better loot, exactly like Diablo 2. If you don't look forward to getting the next bigger, shinier weapon, this game will be boring for you. The art is fantasic btw, it really stands out from the rest of the realistic FPS games out there. Crank the graphics way up, it looks really good. » Login to reply to this  DukeNukemX (8)    Nov 05, 2009 - 12:38 am The loot is nice, but having it as the only driving force is kinda weak. I like to call this the Megaman effect. What's the driving force for you to keep playing? To get the biggest baddest gun there is. Though in Megaman games, especially Megaman X games, game play itself was there. In MMX games you could play as Zero, which was a completely different experience. In Borderlands, everyone uses a gun, but gets World of Warcraft like additions. Very homogenized really. FPS shooters or RPG, good games have a good story. This game is a little of both. Graphics isn't the issue with the game as much as concept and artwork. BTW, I did beat the game and I finally got to see a different environment. Too bad it was short lived. My suggestion is that, it's a nice game when the price drops. If you haven't played Fallout 3, then get that instead. » Login to reply to this  Labotomizer (989)    Nov 08, 2009 - 06:13 pm I like it quite a bit but mostly just for some mind numbing slaughter and trying to find something cool. I don't expect it to deliver much otherwise and I'm okay with that. Fallout 3 was much more interesting but VATS took away from the combat. Playing through the second time with the bullet time mod to replace VATS made it much more enjoyable. » Login to reply to this

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x4 Critical (396)   Oct 31, 2009 - 09:38 am

This is the game Hellgate: London wanted to be, a fast, fun, RPG themed FPS. » Login to reply to this

FSgeeK (531)    Oct 30, 2009 - 04:38 pm

It doesnt go into depth as much as FA3 it kinda like one big grind really. The story line to me isnt all that captivating. » Login to reply to this

jacobvandy (954)    Oct 29, 2009 - 02:42 pm | Edited on Oct 29, 2009 - 02:42 pm

as kuul mentioned, it's more similar to a hack-n-slash or even an MMO than a seriously deep RPG. not that FO3 is a seriously deep RPG, but yeah. borderlands has fewer, different RPG elements, but they're more cohesively integrated so that they don't get in the way of the shooting. » Login to reply to this

KuuL (32)   Oct 29, 2009 - 01:39 pm | Edited on Oct 29, 2009 - 01:40 pm

Ehhh... I'd say it has less RPG elements than Fallout 3 had. There are no complex quests with moral decisions, or stats to mess around with. It's more FPS than RPG; the RPG elements are very very lite, but that's not a bad thing. Think Diablo 2 with guns and you'll have a really good idea of what to expect. Borderlands has simple quests (just like Diablo 2), there is lots of loot management (just like Diablo 2), and the main focus is on running and gunning. Don't expect a complex RPG with this game, you'll be disappointed if you think it's like Fallout 3. It's similar, mainly due to the "wasteland" theme, but other than that, this is a First Person Looter and nothing more. Which I happen to love. *edit for spelling* » Login to reply to this  RedRay (371)   Nov 04, 2009 - 01:21 am KuuL has it right. This is a shooter first and RPG second. More RPG elements than games like Wolfenstein, FarCry 2 and RE5. But still much less than Fallout 3. But Borderlands is a better shooter than Fallout 3. And it supports co-op. » Login to reply to this

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Synchronous Failure (101)     Oct 29, 2009 - 05:04 pm

It's another excellent review but adding "Rated M for Mature" under the Pros made me think if you were having difficulty finding any pros to mention. =/ » Login to reply to this  jacobvandy (954)    Oct 29, 2009 - 06:56 pm | Edited on Oct 29, 2009 - 06:57 pm lol, it was just a different way to say i liked the brutal gore and low-brow humor. i guess maybe it didn't come across like i intended... » Login to reply to this  Synchronous Failure (101)     Oct 29, 2009 - 08:22 pm Yeah, I got the idea after a second look but some less intelligent folks might not. =P » Login to reply to this

KuuL (32)   Oct 29, 2009 - 01:49 pm

Hey Jacob, I think the way you broke out the sections and specifically mentioned consolitis problems very helpful for potential buyers. I would like to see more reviews have these general sections going forward, especially the consolitis section. Be sure to continue mentioning if the problem can be fixed by tweaking a config file, as you did in this article. That will be useful information for many. » Login to reply to this

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MooseMuffin (191)   Oct 29, 2009 - 11:48 am

What's mouse smoothing, and why don't I want it? » Login to reply to this  KuuL (32)   Oct 29, 2009 - 11:57 am I took this from other forums (saves me the time of explaining): "Mouse smoothing came from the time of mechanical ball mice, because of their poor spacial resolution, i.e. if you move the mouse from left to right in FPS, you would see that the rotation of your view is performed in "jumps", which is an artifact of low resolution sampling of mouse position. If you have good optical mouse, there is no need to smooth it at all." And this: "It makes it smooth to move the mouse but slowing the reaction because it's basically delaying the response. Not really good to use at games that requires lots of reflex and response." Basically, it makes it feels like you're moving around in honey or some other liquid: movement is not as "snappy" as it should be with mouse smoothing on. Bioshock on PC had this problem, that game felt "laggy" when moving the mouse, until mousesmoothing is disabled. » Login to reply to this  MooseMuffin (191)   Oct 29, 2009 - 01:10 pm Ahh. I know that feeling, I just never knew the name for it (or that it had a setting). Thanks! » Login to reply to this

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